Annotations (19)
“Over 50 years, only 20 stocks drove the performance of the New Horizons Fund. One of the fund managers told the story of meeting Sam Walton on the Walmart IPO roadshow when it had only 50 stores. The stake in Walmart, had it not been sold, would have been greater than the sum total of everything I was managing eight billion dollars.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Strategy & Decision Making · Economics & Markets
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One great decision can outweigh hundreds
“By the end of the 2010s, everyone knew if you were a product-based business, you needed to understand your China cost. That was the first derivative. I think the same thing applies to AI, but it's not product-based, it's IP-based. Every company that's IP-based needs to understand AI cost curves. If you're on one cost curve deflating at 15 to 20% per year, and your competition is flat or inflating, we wake up in 5 years and those could be power law businesses.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Technology & Engineering · Strategy & Decision Making · Economics & Markets
DUR_ENDURING
AI is China cost for knowledge work
“When I spent time with Jeff Bezos, I learned the very best businesses that leverage technology use it to lower costs and drive revenue that result in them gaining 30% or more incremental market share. Then they take that unit economic advantage and reinvest it in something that is persistent, even if their competition were to wake up tomorrow and do the exact same thing with people just as good.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Strategy & Decision Making · Economics & Markets · Technology & Engineering
DUR_ENDURING
Unit economics to persistent infrastructure
“Over a rolling 10-year period, about 40 stocks compound wealth at 20% a year or go up a little over 6x. About 1% of the stock market are the valedictorians. That's what we want to invest in. About 80% of those companies actually start their compounding journey as small-cap companies. That's why I love small-cap companies: 80% of these great companies start as small caps.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Strategy & Decision Making · Economics & Markets
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1% rule: 40 stocks drive market returns
“What was the best Russell 2000 growth small-cap company over that 10-year period in the 2010s? Domino's Pizza. A modest growth company, didn't average 10% growth. Why was Domino's so good? They invested in technology, built their app, created a direct relationship with customers, and used that to target them more efficiently. They improved convenience dramatically. As you do something well, improve the product, iterate on convenience, and have a direct relationship, the brand halo gets better.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Technology & Engineering · Strategy & Decision Making · Operations & Execution
DUR_ENDURING
Convenience plus direct relationship built flywheel
“Somewhere between 80 and 90% of institutional flow is driven by firms that have 1-month and 3-month agency, or quants that take price signals into account. If you work at a firm that measures your risk every day, and if you have a bad 3 months you get your capital cut back or let go, you can't have a time horizon longer than your career horizon. We said, let's do less so we can do more. If we're going to accept volatility, we need to really understand the business and people.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Economics & Markets · Strategy & Decision Making · Psychology & Behavior
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Short incentives create short horizons
“Our investment memos are fundamentally written different. When we look at an early-stage growth company, we write the memo that says, as Duolingo does what we think it can do over the next 3 years, not only do we make a fair return for the risk, but at that point in time we would want to buy more at these higher prices. If we can't write the memo that we want to buy more at higher prices, we can't buy the shares. Our thesis can't be it gets bought or it'd be a great talent acquisition.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Strategy & Decision Making · Business & Entrepreneurship · Economics & Markets
DUR_ENDURING
Only invest if you'd buy more later
“I did an internal teaching on man versus machine. I realized if it's a repeat actor problem based on known data, the quants are pretty good. If you're just buying an industrial company because the PMI's down and historically when PMI re-rates you make money, that's not going to work. But if you're really good at understanding people and really good at understanding change, that was advantaged. We doubled down on those two things and stopped doing what we weren't advantaged at versus machines.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Strategy & Decision Making · Technology & Engineering · Psychology & Behavior
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Machines win on patterns; humans win on people
“If you've been one before, you have a higher probability of being one again. Act II entrepreneurs: if you understand HR systems of record and you've built PeopleSoft, then you come together with cloud technology, you know how to build exception management at scale. That's an Act II team. They solved the same problem with total clarity at the beginning. If you've been successful, it allows you to align all parts of the organization exactly how you want.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Leadership & Management · Strategy & Decision Making
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Act II advantage: clarity plus alignment
“The closed system of media was predicated on only showing you the product you most want when they could make the most money. Even in linear TV, the worst shows showed up on Sunday night because people spent money on weekends. Best shows on Thursday night. In movies, there was windowing. The TMT bubble laid the seeds of the end of durability of that industry because broadband enabled YouTube and Netflix, which broke down this oligopoly closed system.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Economics & Markets · Strategy & Decision Making · Technology & Engineering
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Closed system vulnerability to open distribution
“I almost named Durable Act II Capital. With a clean sheet of paper, if we were going to purpose-build an investment vehicle, how would it be structured? The percent of capital in public and private markets is aligned against that. The same person who worked with me when we underwrote Figma at two billion dollars in 2020 was at the all-hands when Dylan announced they were going public and still looks at the company when they announce public earnings. That's just different.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Leadership & Management · Strategy & Decision Making
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Same analyst from private to public
“I love physical real estate. Amazon or Carvana reconditioning centers: you can't spin those things up. Super messy, acquire land, put it in the right place, build the right network, stand it up with right CapEx and systems, and the right operating culture. If you put real estate in the wrong place, cost of transport's more expensive.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Strategy & Decision Making · Operations & Execution · Leadership & Management
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Hard physical assets and soft culture moats
“Netflix transitioned from DVD mail to streaming. A little messy: tried to split the company into Netflix and Flixster, violated customer trust, churn spiked. Reed was buying back stock at 280 dollars and it went to 70 dollars. I called him on Saturday saying there's a scenario where you have to raise money. He hadn't thought about it. What does the public market do? It sends a signal you're under real transition. If you work there, you saw stock go from 280 to 70.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Strategy & Decision Making · Leadership & Management
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Public markets force alignment in transitions
“I started to think about investing based on principles I learned in biology. In order to have organisms that sustain over a long period of time and persist, they have to be in balance with their ecosystem. Children go through certain curves: child, adolescence, teenager, adult, and they have to be in balance. If they are, they can thrive. Why shouldn't investing follow the same rules?”— Henry Ellenbogen
Philosophy & Reasoning · Biology, Ecology & Systems · Strategy & Decision Making
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Ecosystem balance as investing first principle
“To build a great company, you have to balance growth, profitability, and innovation. The and business, not the or business. You have to drive growth measured by market share in short term, drive innovation to position better for the future, and drive profitability. Profitability forces efficiency and discipline through the organization and makes sharp decisions on capital. Think about your CFO not as a policeman but as someone who sets standards that forces sharp decisions.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Business & Entrepreneurship · Strategy & Decision Making · Leadership & Management
DUR_ENDURING
And not or: growth, profit, innovation
“We have lunches as an investment team and talk about insights. You don't prepare for this meeting. Hey, I had an interesting conversation with a CEO. I listened to OpenAI Dev Day and this is what I thought was interesting. We're trying to look for lateral insights to learn from each other. We do investment reviews where multiple people look. We do KPIs where we go through the whole portfolio and every colleague reports how they did.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Leadership & Management · Business & Entrepreneurship
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Structured informal learning sessions
“My mom said if that's what you really want to do, dropping out of Harvard to be chief of staff, it sounds very thoughtful. If you're going to do that, I'm always here for you, I love you, I'll always be your mother. But what it practically means is you need to be responsible for paying for your education. You say you want to go back. I'll take you at your word. You gotta do this now as an adult.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Psychology & Behavior · Leadership & Management
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Support plus accountability equals growth
“We look for deep intellectual curiosity. If you don't want to constantly learn, that's not who we are. We want people who compete but as a team sport. We have a lot of athletes, people who worked their way through school. We want resilient people. You have to live with the fact that sometimes your performance isn't going to be good. When people think about being excellent at Durable, they have to think about being excellent in what they do and making their colleagues better. It's gotta be both.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Leadership & Management · Business & Entrepreneurship
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Excellence AND making others better
“There's two types of competitive greatness. Michael Jordan: such a fierce competitor that if you didn't rise to his level, he drove you out. It works. Then there are people who say this game is great, we want to have fun, elevate the game, and win. The people who compete with us, we think they're great and we're rooting for them. When we're gonna play them, we're competitive and we're gonna win. But we want to have fun. We believe everyone can win. That's durable.”— Henry Ellenbogen
Leadership & Management · Psychology & Behavior · Culture & Society
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Compete with joy not fear
Frameworks (3)
The 1% Compounders Framework
Identifying the 40 stocks that will drive market returns
Systematic approach to identifying and concentrating capital in the approximately 40 companies per decade that compound wealth at 20% annually and drive nearly all market returns. Based on empirical study showing only 1% of public stocks are true compounders, with 80% starting as small-cap companies.
Components
- Study Historical Compounders
- Focus on Small-Cap Entry Points
- Assess People and Change Capability
- Apply the Dollar-Cost-Average-Up Test
Act II Entrepreneur Assessment Framework
Evaluating serial entrepreneurs with domain mastery
Systematic approach to identifying and evaluating entrepreneurs on their second act who combine deep domain knowledge from a previous success with new enabling technology or business model. Act II entrepreneurs have higher probability of building compounding businesses because they understand both the problem space and how to build organizations.
Components
- Verify Previous Success
- Assess Domain Clarity
- Identify Enabling Change
- Evaluate Organizational Alignment
Unified Public-Private Investment Model
Maintaining continuity from late-stage private through public markets
Organizational structure that enables the same analyst to follow a company from late-stage private investment through IPO and into public markets. Requires specific team composition, incentive alignment, time allocation policies, and investor education to execute successfully.
Components
- Structure Capital Allocation
- Build Cross-Market Teams
- Allocate Time to New Ideas
- Align Investor Expectations
- Maintain Investment Continuity
Mental Models (5)
Opportunity Cost
EconomicsThe true cost of any decision is the value of the best alternative foregone. Selling a compounder to buy another stock means foregoing all future compounding of the sold position. One bad decision (selling Walmart early) can mathematically wipe out all gains from hundreds of good decisions.
In Practice: Walmart mistake story and market structure discussion
Demonstrated by Leg-he-001
Compounding Moats
Strategic ThinkingBest competitive advantages are those that compound over time. Physical infrastructure (fulfillment centers) and cultural systems (kaizen) both compound but are difficult to replicate even when strategy is obvious. Competitors must overcome both the current advantage and the ongoing rate of advantage accumulation.
In Practice: Amazon fulfillment centers, Danaher culture, favorite moats discussion
Demonstrated by Leg-he-001
Inversion
Decision MakingApproach problems backwards. Instead of asking 'should I invest?', ask 'would I want to own more at higher prices?' Inversion reveals hidden assumptions and forces clarity. Applied to early-stage investing: if your thesis requires an acquisition exit, you've already failed the inversion test.
In Practice: Dollar-cost-averaging-up test explanation
Demonstrated by Leg-he-001
Power Laws
MathematicsIn many domains, a small percentage of inputs account for vast majority of outputs. In equity markets, approximately 1% of stocks (40 out of 4000) drive nearly all returns over 10-year periods. Recognition that concentration in the vital few outperforms diversification across the trivial many.
In Practice: Explanation of 1% philosophy and compounder research
Demonstrated by Leg-he-001
Ecosystem Balance
Systems ThinkingSystems (biological, organizational, economic) require balance between constituent parts to persist over time. Imbalance leads to system failure. Companies are ecosystems requiring balance between customers, employees, shareholders, and communities.
In Practice: Foundation of investment philosophy explanation
Demonstrated by Leg-he-001
Connective Tissue (4)
Biological Ecosystem Balance
Ellenbogen draws explicit parallel between biological organisms maintaining balance with their ecosystem and companies maintaining balance between stakeholders.
Explaining origin of his investment philosophy rooted in organic chemistry and biology
Kaizen to Knowledge Work
Danaher brought kaizen from Japan to US manufacturing 40 years ago. Ellenbogen argues AI represents the beginning of kaizen applied to knowledge work.
Discussion with Max Levchin about AI-driven efficiency leading to connection with Mitch Rales
Warriors vs Bulls Competitive Philosophy
Ellenbogen contrasts Michael Jordan Bulls with Steph Curry Warriors as two models of competitive greatness.
Explaining Durable competitive philosophy and culture
China Cost Curve Parallel
By the end of the 2010s, every product-based business needed to understand their China cost or face extinction. Ellenbogen argues AI represents the exact same dynamic.
Explaining AI impact across economy beyond just technology companies
Key Figures (11)
Luis von Ahn
5 mentionsCo-founder and CEO of Duolingo
Jeff Bezos
3 mentionsFounder and former CEO of Amazon
Jay Hennick
3 mentionsFounder and Chairman of FirstService, CEO of Colliers
Dylan Field
2 mentionsCo-founder and CEO of Figma
Reed Hastings
2 mentionsCo-founder and former CEO of Netflix
Aneel Bhusri
2 mentionsCo-founder and CEO of Workday
Dave Duffield
2 mentionsCo-founder of PeopleSoft and Workday
Mitch Rales
2 mentionsCo-founder and Chairman of Danaher
Sam Walton
2 mentionsFounder of Walmart
Catherine
1 mentionsPartner at Durable Capital
Patrick Doyle
1 mentionsFormer CEO of Domino's Pizza
Glossary (1)
kaizen
FOREIGN_PHRASEJapanese continuous improvement philosophy focused on incremental operational refinement
“Danaher basically brought kaizen back to the US and built a whole business system around it.”
Key People (7)
Sam Walton
(1918–1992)Founder of Walmart who built largest US retailer
Patrick Doyle
(1964–)Former Domino's CEO who led technology-driven transformation
Aneel Bhusri
(1967–)Co-founder of PeopleSoft and Workday
Dave Duffield
(1941–)Serial entrepreneur, co-founder of PeopleSoft and Workday
Jeff Bezos
(1964–)Founder of Amazon who built from online bookstore to everything store
Reed Hastings
(1960–)Co-founder of Netflix who led streaming transition
Michael Jordan
(1963–)NBA legend known for fierce competitive style with Chicago Bulls
Synthesis
Dominant Themes
- Act II entrepreneurs combining domain mastery with new technology
- Private to public market continuity as competitive advantage
- Human judgment advantage over machines
Unexpected Discoveries
- Domino's as best Russell 2000 growth stock of 2010s through convenience innovation
- 80-90% of institutional flow driven by 1-3 month agency problem
- Kaizen applied to knowledge work just beginning
Cross-Source Questions
- How do other legendary investors handle private-to-public transitions?
Processing Notes
Podcast format created unique intimacy and specificity.
Synthesis
Podcast format created unique intimacy and specificity.